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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #855 on: March 02, 2023, 07:33:29 PM »

Anniversary of the explosion looming on the 9th April, see attached my annual "Anniversary" letter to the PDGB.

They've had nearly a year to become aware and informed.



Some new content...I got hold of the Dept of Labour's original report ...that started this shit show ... the owner said twice it wasn't me who hooked up offending fryers...even named who it was...but the corrupts ignored this and went after me anyway. Cowards.
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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #856 on: March 21, 2023, 08:21:26 AM »
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Sent this morning 21 March 23.

I believe that the reaction from the PGDB to this utter shambles reflects on what they think of every single one of you and the industry as a whole. If I was part of a PERPETUAL Industry Board and was expected to protect this kind of corruption I would be appalled, but then I have a moral compass and the balls to say so.




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Hi Amanda,

As I said this would be done with the disinfectant of daylight, out in the open and in public.

Please see below a link to the "Plumber's Forum", my Open Letter has been downloaded 80 times (at the time of writing this email), quite a small number nationally. But as it's a focused site, then I believe that the number is magnified by the lens of that  trade specific site.

https://www.plumbers.nz/fellow-practitioners-update/41/fellow-practitioner-issue-236-dated-12-december-2014/1810/msg13271#msg13271 

Please can you table this email along with my open letter to the PGDB. I do not want to ambush anyone (I have had it done to my family way too many times). I just want to emphasise that their reply will be posted in public before the industry.

How the PGDB reply will reflect how much they value their own integrity and how much they value what the industry thinks of them. Corruption doesn't have a "use by date".


How did Darnley face a charge for the explosion which magically disappeared by the time of his hearing...the separate hearing to my hearing, the one that had to be separate because we both faced the same charge at the start of the witch-hunt...which prevented my team from questioning him and his team. A very convenient co-incidence ??? All done in good faith with reasonable care as per the Act???


Yours with Integrity Paul Gee.

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #857 on: April 19, 2023, 10:00:57 AM »
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The reply that took 6 weeks to write and as promised my reply....



An Open reply to PGDB letter 18 April 2023, as promised to be posted along with your short letter publicly. Please share with the PGD Board Members.

Hi Amanda,

How it took over 6 weeks for such a short reply is beyond me, but it is what I have come to expect after 14 years. Literally only just one sentence of consequence, other than the usual niceties of a letter, below in blue.

“The Board acknowledges the concerns you have raised but has nothing further to say about these matters”.

The PGDB acknowledges my “concerns” but refuses to act or even speak about them. Please let me take the opportunity to clarify, they are not to be flippantly dismissed as mere “concerns” but facts backed by hard evidence. This premeditated and purposeful ignoring of these facts, in my mind, constitutes the definition of a cover up… i.e. being in full knowledge of damning and incriminating facts/evidence then turning a blind eye and even refusing to discuss, not a good look.

This state of affairs says to me that you care very little for transparency, honesty, integrity, the industry or natural justice. And apparently, on the face of it, caring even less who knows this, I say this because you are well aware your reply will be posted publicly.
NEED I REMIND YOU…NO ONE HAS BEEN HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR A NEAR FATAL EXPLOSION, WHILE IGNORING BLATANT EVIDENCE OF WHO IS RESPONSIBLE AS WELL AS 9 PEOPLE OF INTEREST. This is egregious in itself.
Of Note: At no point do you dispute nor deny my accusations.

Again, as I will every year around the anniversary of the explosion, I make the huge amount of evidence available to the PGDB and with enough notice offer to come to Wellington to present this evidence to anyone that cares.
I take your determined silence as a wilful cover up, condoning the egregious behaviour of past members of your PERPETUAL Industry Board.

Yours with Integrity
Paul Gee

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #858 on: May 06, 2023, 05:39:58 PM »


FYI... Its is ridiculous that I can write this without any denial from the PGDB.


Official Information Request

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Hi Amanda,

By means of an OIA request please can you provide the information/document that led to the directed and focused persecution of myself for the LPG explosion at the Milton Street Chip shop that exploded on the 9th April 2009.

I have provided sections of the initial DOL report (I would send the whole report but the file is too large and the PGDB should have a copy in any event). As you have read, this report states the owner of the chip shop, the only actual witness, said it wasn't me and named another person/company.

This would make anything that came from this report and the subsequent DOL "complaint " invalid and moot. There was no reason within that report to focus on me. And as no one to this day has been found accountable for the explosion, shows that the report was correct and I am an innocent man and the PGDB have a reluctance to find the guilty, this is disgusting.

Of Note: John Darnley faced the same charge as per attached letter, but this charge laid for the explosion disappeared before his hearing, by means of an OIA request please can you tell me why this happened, on what basis was this charge dismissed.

Coincidentally the fact we faced the same charge prevented any cross examination by my team at my hearing.

As I had complained about him for many years before the explosion and he had previous form for nearly burning down a house you would have thought that enough to target him. Not the person who warned about dodgy gas certs, covering dangerous work. I could not have been more accurate.

As you are aware 4 book of certs were bought in my name without my knowledge around the time of my resignation from Allgas, lots of different colour ink is present when adding information to certs after signature, missing information for a test for leaks on one of the certs for the chip shop,  this same cert accepted by the PGDB..you can't get much more dodgy.. and let's not forget a near fatal explosion, which is about as dangerous as you can get. I could not have been more accurate in my warnings.

I do not accept the PGDB metaphorically taking their ball home and not wanting to play any more with their refusal to discuss their egregious behaviour. You have had a massive effect on my life, I resently found out that my youngest son is teased about this in school, the kids say, "your Dad blew up the chip shop", this comes just under the level of the child sexual abuse notes opened by my wife. By means of another OIA request please can you tell me the reason the PGDB thinks these disgusting documents (there were several cases sent in one package and opened by my wife) are relevant in a plumbing context. To clarify I am looking for the legal precedent that justifies this abuse.

I can provide my IRD list of jobs I have had since the kangaroo court I was subjected to (where I proved myself in a biased and conflicted proceeding over 95% innocent). This list shows I have had 10 jobs in 12 years, if I include my self employed either side of that it is 12, a job a year. Many would have snapped by now.

I look forward to your reply within 20 working days, if it makes things easier for you my other OIA requests can be provided on the same day.

Yours With Integrity

Paul Gee.

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #859 on: June 04, 2023, 12:53:25 PM »




Dear Prime Minister and all MP’S,

Please bear in mind that the PGDB do not deny any of my accusations below, I find that very concerning. As should those copied in. The PGDB are happy to not address this corruption for nearly 15 years. They have literally refused to talk about a near fatal explosion that no one to this day has been held to account, ignoring blatant firm evidence. Please see my open letter to the PGDB and their reply refusing to talk about it, attached.

And worse…apparently not concerned what the industry thinks of this either, please see a  link below with over 160 thousand views on a Plumbing/Gasfitting industry specific forum, link below.

https://www.plumbers.nz/fellow-practitioners-update/41/fellow-practitioner-issue-236-dated-12-december-2014/1810/msg13203#msg13203

 

Please see DOL report 5072550, re Milton Street Chip shop explosion in Nelson, a near fatal explosion in April 2009.

 

In the DOL report 5072550. It mentions it was me who warned for 6 years prior to the explosion. Warning that there were dodgy certs covering dangerous work. I could not have been more accurate. But I was targeted, terrorised and was subjected to a pre-determined witch-hunt. The problem with corruption is it is like rot in a building, if it isn’t removed it spreads and infects the sound structure of that building.

My wife was terrorised with child sexual abuse case notes to prove a point on probabilities. Sent just before we were forced to sell our home. Emma spent a whole winter living in a caravan with my sons, 3 and 5 years old. Emptying the cassette toilet waste and filling up on drinking water at the local i-site in front of the people we used to serve with our business, done while I was forced to work away. I have worked away since within my trade and taken work out of my trade to work from home. One of these jobs was at the local power station,  I was made redundant from.  Co-incidentally a short time after bumping into Mr Bickers, who was on my panel at the hearing and later the chair of the PGDB, the same person who slated me in the local newspaper after going 95% innocent of 44 charges. Saying I had brought the industry into disrepute and that I had said I was a “mere plumber”, but no one can show where I said this.

The last charge is totally unfounded. Interestingly, in another home the PGDB told the occupants to close their window to avoid fumes. This other appliance was far more closed in than the one they accused me of and the owner of this home said he had never smelt fumes. There is an alternative standard that proves I did no wrong.

My business was ruined by official PGDB letters full of untruths (apparently I am not to refer to them as lies) The one attached to the local high school did the most damage. These prejudicing untrue letters were sent to every site of charges (except the site of the explosion).

Stating that I was issuing illegal certs in in the North Island, in places I have never even visited, let alone worked.

The actual person who was doing this in these areas in my letters was apparently selling blank certs, he kept his license until his son was gifted his certifying license in the same manner as my old boss. I have an official reply from the PGDB that this case is still before the Board and as far as I know no action has been taken. This situation generated the story below in blue.

"Hundreds of homes and businesses have been fitted with potentially illegal and dangerous gas connections which authorities say could put people at risk of fire or poisoning.

Police and Government authorities are investigating the alleged scam in which more than 570 blank safety certificates were signed by a registered gasfitter, then sold to up to eight unqualified tradesmen who carried out work in Auckland and Northland.

The alleged fraud went on for nearly three years until a homeowner noticed her gas certificate looked bogus and laid a complaint with the Plumbers, Gasfitters and Drainlayers Board in July.

The Government licensing body launched an inquiry and discovered the scale of the alleged offending.

An urgent audit of more than 370 commercial premises and private homes found more than 90 per cent failed to meet compliance tests, with 16 found to be dangerous or unsafe.

More than 200 certificates are still missing and the board has issued an alert to the public to help trace the unlicensed work.
Energy Safety, part of the Ministry of Economic Development, and the Department of Labour are also investigating the potentially explosive gas fittings. A complaint has also been laid with police.

John Debernardo, the gasfitter board spokesman, said the 570 certificates were a small fraction of the 100,000 issued during the three-year period.

While most were technical breaches and the number of potentially lethal gas leaks found were small, he urged anyone with information to come forward.

"Gas is a fuel that has the potential to create danger or pose a health and safety risk. This is a serious matter," said Mr Debernardo.

The internal investigation would be completed in a few weeks and a disciplinary hearing was likely for the gasfitter at the centre of the audit.

Criminal charges were also possible for the man signing the blank certificates and those who paid money for them.

"As a gas industry spokesman, I'm ashamed of what these guys have done," said Mr Debernardo.

To compound matters, gas connections done by an unlicensed worker are not covered by insurance.

Mr Debernardo said the audit had cost taxpayers $250,000 so far, a figure likely to rise to $500,000.

He would also report back to the board with a review of the gas-fitting certificate system to see if changes needed to be made.

Mark Wogan, of Energy Safety, said the audit found six homes and 10 businesses in Auckland were dangerous or unsafe. The immediate focus was on public safety"
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Mr Debernardo sat in on my interviews, as a trainee investigator, with Hammond the PGDB investigator. Mr Debarnado has since sadly passed away.


The 44 trumped up charges, 50% of which were amended (altered to fit better) two weeks out from my hearing, amended after a two year "investigation".

All the sites of my charges (other than the site of the near fatal explosion) were investigated by Casey Inspection Service LTD. The same firm who put a claim in for auditing me at 8 point road, after I told him it was a cert I had handed back when I left Allgas years before. Handed back as it was dodgy (look at the dates, the explosion was in April 2009). Same firm who had their services cancelled because they were needlessly failing audits to claim the $150 re-audit fee. Look at the mess on this cert accepted by the PGDB below and the receipt for services rendered (which they were not) in 2005. I had been complaining about these certs since 2003.

 







During my inquisition, evidence was most definitely withheld and misrepresented...evidence that confirmed my claims and previous warnings, warnings made 6 years before someone nearly got killed in an explosion.

Huge conflicts of interest were ignored, it took several people to do this, not just the so called "impartial" investigator. Impartial he was not. Isn’t that the definition of a conspiracy?

This investigator. Hammond, who granted Darnley (my old boss) his full certifying gasfitting license after just one oral exam (basically a chat). The investigator being the same who lobbied for gas industry deregulation (a huge mistake) and pushed for (if not implemented) the self-certifying system, the same guy who turned up to my interview with pink paper (the colour of the top copy, which was then carbon copied in triplicate) with plain black ink photo copies, thus hiding all the different colour inks (red, green, black and blue) of altered/added information. Does he sound Impartial to you? In interview he said, I should make sure my house is in order before dobbing people in and that the system was too big to fail. But the system has failed.

My last charge was upheld because I was prevented from producing a British Standard at my High Court appeal, this standard totally exonerated me… but basically because of the investigators' (and PGDB’S) ignorance of this standard... I am guilty? guilty of what?

Evidence was ignored that implicates other people, at least 9 people of interest. Work offensive enough to ruin my business/reputation and terrorising my wife, but not offensive enough to pursue the actual guilty. The PGDB have Wal's 72 page report, please see attached, but the PGDB do nothing. As per usual Wal has done all the hard work for the PGDB...but it's beyond just laziness.

One of these people of interest (Darnley my old boss) still goes protected from a charge he actually faced for the explosion, but this charge magically disappeared before his hearing AND THE PGDB DO NOT DENY THIS!!!

Of Note, Darnley handed in his resignation to the New Zealand Institute of Gas Engineers in May 2009, the explosion was in April 2009, weeks earlier, if not days. NZIGE is an arm of IPENZ…who Bickers and Hammond are members.

It is so ridiculous that someone admitted that he had cut away parts of the hose just before the explosion, as per the DOL report, but nothing happened to him.

Also in the DOL report a complete lack of maintenance. I ask you in all honesty … if the brakes on your car fail after six years of zero maintenance, do you blame the garage where you bought it? But I was subjected to two years of unjustified persecution.

Someone altered my work, lowering the pipe to the floor, resulting in the hose rupturing once BEFORE, the second hose (sold after I left Allgas, by Allgas) is the one that caused the explosion, photos of my original fixing screw holes were withheld by the investigator. Interestingly, the photos from the DOL report were used by the investigator in his correspondence with me, so he had the name of the person who the owner said installed the fryers and the exploding hose.

 

Is natural justice served when I am forced to lie to get a job, ironically protecting the corrupt ? Most times if I am honest I don't make the paper sift, so I am forced to lie, then it inevitable comes out and causes resentment.

I have been severely persecuted and harassed, but the atrocious handling of the cert system by the PGDB, accepting incomplete certs… filled out with different colour ink, gets zero action?.

Of Note see below...the "15" the day of signing off the test for leaks is in a different colour ink to the 06 and 03...this is on the explosion cert ...really? that’s ok !!!.... same blue ink as is HALF the info for the exploding fryers, see below, the rest is in black...the idiot who did this did not have the sense (nor care) to use the same colour ink for the dodgy additions...there are a lot of these. I have the copies if anyone wants to see them...these are the type of people the PGDB stand by and protect ?

 Shame on you, please table this email to the PGDB. I just want to ensure they are aware of the blatant corruption the PGDB are standing by and covering up…Please correct me at any point that I have wrong.

There is so much more to this, it needs to be shown for what it is, a witch-hunt carried out with real Health and Safety risks to the NZ public, covering up an explosion that nearly ended in a death. If it had happened an hour either side, it would have injured, even killed school kids on the way to school or patrons/staff at the pub next door having smoko.

It wasn't just the work of the investigator, there are several people who did this, literally a conspiracy.

Conspiracy… Noun… a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.

Believe me these actions were harmful, and in all probability illegal (at least is should be). The record should show that I am an innocent man, but the PGDB’s  legacy is one of protecting corruption. Where are the news reporters whose job it is to out this kind of wrong doing. Helping to protect the innocent and the Kiwi public?

If this gets swept under the carpet...will it help or hinder? Will it give the corrupts a green light to carry on regardless?

The PGDB remind me of a flock of geese, the one's at the front of the V change periodically, but the flock head in the same predetermined direction.

Of Note....The PGDB have stopped publishing the minutes for their hearings...I am told to save room...several pages of A4 of data a month...room saved in this day and age digitally...I'll say that again...to save room. A year's worth of these minutes wouldn't fill a divider in a draw in a filing cabinet.

The one set of minutes I requested generated 16 pages of A4. Three attachments of 119KB, 104KB and 284 KB....507KB space saved DIGITALLY … Interestingly these documents sent to me had more redactions than a document leak on a JFK assassination press release, it is a crap joke. I am told by the PGDB that these redactions are to protect people's privacy ...but whole sections are blanked out, not just people’s identities.

To quote...."Sorry Paul, I put you wrong about why the Board meeting minutes were no longer published on the website" and "they were removed to allow us to use the space for other information about the Board”…500KB per month or 6MB of digital “space” per year, sounds a bit odd. Does this scream transparency and openness???

 

People tend to act with impunity, because they can. And do not stop until they can't.

 

Yours with Integrity

Paul Gee




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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #860 on: June 04, 2023, 02:05:01 PM »
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Some of the attachments from my email...bloody embarrassing if you ask me... ??? ??? ???




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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #861 on: June 04, 2023, 03:56:04 PM »
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Compare the dates on these, this is the cert I told the auditor I didn't do, but he claimed to have audited me anyway...

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #862 on: June 06, 2023, 05:42:50 PM »
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The Prime Minister and all the present day MPs officially know all this now, the PGDB know they know. Oh and by the way...the PGDB do not deny anything I have said, but they do refuse to talk about it. Sounds transparent and fair.

I was found 95% innocent in their biased slanted kangaroo court, with the last charge totally dismissed by a British Standard...so in my mind I have proven myself innocent...I have proven to have done no wrong, at all.

BUT THAT IS NOT THE POINT...

MY FAMILY WERE TORRORISED FOR NEARLY TWO YEARS AND WE LOST EVERYTHING. FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN CORRUPT, CRONY PROTECTING, NARCISSISTIC, INCOMPETANT, ARSE COVERING COWARDS FELT LIKE DOING IT, AGAINST ALL THE RULES THEY HIT US WITH REGULARY, PONTIFICATING AS THEY GO.

AND...lets not for get no one has been held to account for nearly killing someone with faulty gas work, altering my original work...this could be any one of you. While cold hard facts/evidence is there and readily available, but they do nothing...9 people of interest...nothing...sound fair???

I still suffer the consequences of it all, to this day... for nearly 15 years, I will probably snap one day.


So if the shit hits the fan, you know, who knows...




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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #863 on: August 16, 2023, 07:25:47 AM »


Sent yesterday.

None of this below is denied by the PGDB, but they do refuse to talk about it, I am told they are still not doing the right thing up to today to people and have done it to far more people than just me. Sounds fair eh?

Anyone of you could be put in this position at any time, someone alters your work and if it suits the PGDB will go after you, even to the point of ignoring the blatant true culprit (and 9 people of interest at the same time). To the point of NO ONE being held accountable for nearly killing someone. No action from the elected "leaders" on this kind of corruption.


In my mind if you take no action against corruption, then you are by default condoning corruption.




Dear Prime Minister and Minister,

Please can you tell me when I might receive a reply with some meaningful action.

Or do you condone this kind of blatant corruption of which you are now more than aware of, corruption done with an egregious abuse of power that my family has had inflicted upon them. I struggle to this day, ask and I am more than happy to explain why.

I have proven myself to have done nothing wrong whatsoever. I proved myself 95% innocent of 44 trumped up charges in a biased and conflicted kangaroo court, with the remaining bullsh*t charge dismissed by a British Standard, which I was prevented from producing at my appeal. Does the ignorance of a corrupt disciplinary board make this legally accepted British Standard cease to exist?

I endured a 2 year witch hunt for something I tried to prevent for nearly 6 years previous to that explosion. Then terrorised for two years with threats, stress, withheld/misrepresented evidence, character assasination, untruths and child sexual abuse case notes (case notes to prove a point on probabilities in a gasfitting context, just vile and sick). Losing our home, business and reputation. I have had this struggle for nearly 15 years, the more I investigate the more I find. My will is not waning, but gaining as time passes.

This 2 year witch hunt carried out by people the NZ Law Commission states should not even be in power. A witch hunt that ignored all that was in the instigating document, a report from Dept of Labour that not only exonerated me, but named others who were far more responsible.

No one to this day has been held responsible for altering my work and causing an explosion and NEARLY KILLING SOMEONE, while ignoring blatant evidence and 9 people of interest. Most of this BLATANT evidence is not just in the possession of the PGDB, but also in your possession now.

All done while ignoring the ancient Law of Torts, that if ignored means we do not live in a free society.


Do you side with the corrupt or protect the innocent ?


I am aghast and very concerned that the present NZ democratically elected leader and his specific minister for energy and building/construction (which could not be a more relevant combination to an exploding building) have their hands tied when it comes to addressing this.

As per Megan's most recent letter to me, apparently the PGDB are statutory independent, and also non liable. Sounds a bit wild west, more like Cowboys and Idiots in my opinion. I know of more people who have had this done to them, right up to this day, they have learnt nothing from their "mistakes". Which appear to be in my case premeditated mistakes.

The only leverage us plebs have is during an election, or the lead up to an election.



Please show this the concern it demands at your nearest convenience, unless of course you side with the corrupts.


Yours with honesty and integrity,

Paul Gee



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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #864 on: August 16, 2023, 07:44:57 AM »


They know that you know....




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Dear All,

FYI. Please see link below where I have posted my previous email on a industry focused forum, with over 163,000 "reads"


https://www.plumbers.nz/fellow-practitioners-update/41/fellow-practitioner-issue-236-dated-12-december-2014/1810/msg13285#msg13285

 I have told the PGDB that I have posted here previously about the corruption levelled at my family, They do not seem to care this is publicly aired in such an industry focused forum, they act above the law and even public opinion apparently, in the face of the NZ Law Commission and the Law of Torts.

Is this the kind of system that helps NZ?

Yours with Integrity

Paul Gee


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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #865 on: August 17, 2023, 09:23:35 AM »


What would you do if someone altered your work, causing an explosion that nearly killed someone, and then the PGDB go after you with focused biased venom while ignoring blatant evidence and terrorising your wife with child sexual abuse case notes.

Then when you proved it wasn't you that caused the explosion, the PGDB did not even attempt to find the really guilty, IGNORING BLATANT EVIDENCE AND NINE PEOPLE OF INTEREST ... all for a situation you spent 6 years trying to warn about it happening, well before it exploded, i.e. warning about dodgy certs covering dangerous work.


I have battled this for nearly 15 years, do you think I will give up, nah not in my character.

Like I told one of the corrupts "I am an African honey badger mate!!!." after the coward threatened me with "we'll railroad you if you make a mistake". He said this well before this explosion happened. Remember ya coward when I saw you a few years back and you couldn't look me in the eye, little scurrier you are ain't ya!!!.

Well the system that was too big to fail, has failed. All I said to this coward was "its all about who you know, not what you know"...when I was trying to tell him about how dangerous my old boss was. Think you are connected and protected???...I was the Nelson Master Plumber president at the time he threatened me at an AGM where the next day he became the National president. You know who you are spineless.

The more I look, the more I find, rotten to the core.


It could be you, think of all that work you have out there... all done in your name, then some monkey decides to mess with your safe work, hurts someone (worse kills them)...do you really think these people will do the right thing... I KNOW HOW THEY BEHAVE, its not a suspicion or opinion ... I have actually experienced it




From: Paul Gee <pgee3366@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, 17 August 2023 8:47 am
To: Chris.Hipkins@parliament.govt.nz; Megan.Woods@parliament.govt.nz; 'BuildingAndConstructionPortfolio' <BuildingAndConstruction.Portfolio@parliament.govt.nz>
Cc: David.Seymour@parliament.govt.nz; Christopher.Baillie@parliament.govt.nz; 'Wal Gordon' <wal.gordon@xtra.co.nz>; 'Emma Gee' <thegeegang@gmail.com>
Subject: Public inquiry

Dear Prime Minister,

I have just come across a very interesting article in the NZ Herald and as all things in law appear to be based on past presidents, I would ask you to compare the parallels in my witch-hunt to this situation in the article.

I would draw your attention to this article, link below-

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/police-launch-review-after-disclosure-bungle-blows-up-murder-trial/ar-AA1fkmGr?ocid=socialshare&cvid=ce90dae64a8e4a8aab2580bd50ef5ce3&ei=30

From this article below in blue -

A few days into the Crown case it emerged two notebooks and hundreds of photographs had not made their way to the defence lawyers.

And -

In response to questions from the Herald, a police spokesman said a review would be carried out.

“We acknowledge the finding of the court regarding this trial and have immediately sought to rectify the issues identified,” the statement said.


The parallels to my case are over 100 photos were withheld by the investigator, as well as an extra note book. The legal counsel for the investigator apologised to my advocate (industry stalwart, Wal Gordon) for this undisclosed extra note book. Even the investigators own council was kept in the dark about this extra note book!

After just a few days, the Crown had to abandon the case against three potential murderers. Releasing them, I say potential because they couldn’t see the trial through, abandoned due to a faulty process.

In my case an opportunity to abandon my witch-hunt was offered to the PGDB via an “Impartiality” hearing that was held 22nd February before my May 2011 hearing . At this farce the PGDB judged their own impartiality… and hazard a guess what they decided about their own conflicts of interest ..yep, you guessed it, they totally decided they were impartial and went on to ignore huge conflicts of interest. Judging your own impartiality is at the very least awful grammar, an oxy moron.

“We are conducting a review of the disclosure in this case to ensure that our processes and training provide the platform for file managers to comply with all statutory requirements.”

If the crown can release three potential murderers and hold a review to comply with all statutory requirements, due to incorrect procedure. Why can’t the PGDB be made to look in the mirror admit their wrong doing and apologise to my wife. I have proved myself innocent after being put through the mill for it, after enduring a two year character assassination. Of which, I suffer consequences right up until today.

Why can’t we do the same with my case, abandon my case making the ridiculous appeal moot and hold a review to ensure it never happens again. If the PGDB don’t admit any wrong doing they will never learn. They are still to this day, and have done in the past, steamrolling people’s lives. All done in the face of the NZ Law Commission’s recommendations on conflicts of interest.

Past presidents are very relevant to my witch-hunt, dealing with the PGDB. Past presidents of child sexual abuse case notes were used to prove a point on probabilities. These were sent unmarked of their vile content to my home and opened by my wife, just before we were forced to sell our newly renovated home and she was forced to live in a caravan for a winter with my 3 and 5 year old sons, while I worked away.

Someone nearly died in an explosion and you are allowing the PGDB to ignore blatant obvious evidence that points to the culprit and 9 people of interest for the rest of the trumped up charges. My work was altered and a man nearly got killed, with two families very much affected (in a horrendous way).

The prosecution is required by law to disclose to a defendant all evidence against them and other relevant information held , apparently not if you work for the “PGDB mafia”. Which is how the young PGDB solicitor referred to the PGDB when making small talk with me outside my hearing.

If no action is taken, then I put it to you that you are protecting corruption with a lack of accountability for someone nearly being killed. Are tradesman lower in importance and basic rights than three potential murderers?

I don’t think this is you, and I ask you Prime Minister with all due humility and respect to please order a public inquiry or at least a review. Please do the right thing. Please explain how NZ is better served by protecting these corrupt cronies?

I am told regularly to “just get on with my life”, well if my life could be reinstated I would happily do so.


Yours with honesty and integrity Paul Gee

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #866 on: August 18, 2023, 07:38:10 AM »

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At no point have my accusations or claims been denied, think about that... I can back everything with evidence, and they know it.



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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #867 on: September 18, 2023, 12:52:50 PM »
From: Paul Gee <pgee3366@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, 18 September 2023 12:49 pm
To: megan.woods@parliament.govt.nz; Chris.Hipkins@parliament.govt.nz; BuildingAndConstructionPortfolio <BuildingAndConstruction.Portfolio@parliament.govt.nz>; Chris Baillie <Christopher.Baillie@parliament.govt.nz>; David.Seymour@parliament.govt.nz; Amanda Smith <Amanda@pgdb.co.nz>; Wal Gordon <wal.gordon@xtra.co.nz>; Emma Gee <thegeegang@gmail.com>
Cc: TVNZ <news@tvnz.co.nz>; stuff.co.nz <newstips@stuff.co.nz>
Subject: Re: update your information

Hi All,

So I am to be ignored?

No one has corrected me nor pointed out my mistakes or anything I have "made up"... so where does that place you and your condoning of corruption for a near fatality?

I am appalled by your inaction. I would ask how do you sleep at night, but I guess the reply would be on ill earnt silk pillows.

For such outspoken, full of hot air people to remain silent means you have nothing to say, not even to protect your position...which ironically speaks volumes to me.

It appears you condone the innocent to pay the dues of the guilty.

I will post this with the rest on the link below, a man was nearly killed and you care not.

https://www.plumbers.nz/fellow-practitioners-update/41/fellow-practitioner-issue-236-dated-12-december-2014/1810/msg13287#msg13287

Yours with Integrity Paul Gee





On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 at 16:44, Paul Gee <pgee3366@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Megan,

Please see attached how you are very much able to hold the PGDB to account. It is literally one of your duties. I have attached a copy for your convenience.

You'll notice that the investigation has now been limited to 80 days and Natural Justice should be observed (please see snippet below).

For comparison, my investigation took just over two years (730 plus days) and Natural Justice was ignored, as was the DOL report that started all this off, the same report that names who was responsible and why it exploded, all totally nothing to do with me.

 


Amanda (from the PGDB), by means of an OIA request please can I get copies of the agreements between the minister and PGDB that was in place during the time from my initial warnings about dodgy certs covering dangerous work, when the PGDB illegally persecuted my family and ignored someone nearly dying from an explosion, after someone altered my gas work, i.e. from 2003 to the present.

Please provide the same agreement copies to all in the email address that this has been sent to. Please remember Amanda that 20 working days is a limit and not a target, it should be able to be sent tomorrow (but you won't and never have).


Yours With Integrity Paul Gee.

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #868 on: September 19, 2023, 07:59:12 AM »

What is the point of having Acts and agreements if they are ignored when it suits?





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To: megan.woods@parliament.govt.nz; Chris.Hipkins@parliament.govt.nz; 'BuildingAndConstructionPortfolio' <BuildingAndConstruction.Portfolio@parliament.govt.nz>; 'Chris Baillie' <Christopher.Baillie@parliament.govt.nz>; David.Seymour@parliament.govt.nz; 'Amanda Smith' <Amanda@pgdb.co.nz>; 'Wal Gordon' <wal.gordon@xtra.co.nz>; 'Emma Gee' <thegeegang@gmail.com>; 'Hon Damien O'Connor' <Damien.O'Connor@parliament.govt.nz>
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Subject: Cover up of a near fatal explosion


Dear Megan and Prime Minister,

Please see attached the agreements between the minister and the PGDB. Please can you point out where the PGDB or any minister before or present have honoured these agreements with regards to the near fatal explosion that has ruined my life, business and reputation. I know they have not honoured these documents in my case (and others) and can provide ample proof that the PGDB are incompetent and corrupt.

I openly put it to you that these “agreements” have been ignored by all parties that are mentioned in these agreements. I also put it to you that those who continue to ignore these legal documents (promises to do good) are as corrupt as those that inflicted the witch-hunt on my family.

A MAN NEARLY DIED AND NO ONE HAS BEEN HELD ACCOUNTABLE, WHILST IGNORING EVIDENCE THAT SHOWS WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE.

Megan you have played on semantics’ and tried to avoid these agreements by stating that you cannot do anything because the PGDB have “statutory independence”, when this attitude is paired with their perceived “non liability” status as per the Act, it is no wonder that they behave as they do with utter impunity. It will never be fixed if they do not admit their wrong doing and atone for their egregious behaviour.

What appears to be conveniently ignored is that all these documents, (these attached agreements and the Act) have as a proviso that all actions of the PGDB must be done in good faith with the best of intentions, while observing natural justice. THE PGDB HAVE NOT DONE THIS, if you think they have please point me in the direction of that evidence.

I put it to you and the PM, that natural justice and good intentions have not been observed in my case whatsoever, and I am sure many others have suffered similar. If you ignore this, then I put it to you that you’re as bad as the cronies who act with impunity, I say this because your inaction condones their behaviour, worse it empowers their future behaviour.

Please can you honour the agreements and hold them to account. It is your job to do so.

A man nearly died in an explosion, in a situation I had continually warned could happen for nearly 6 years prior to that explosion. I was then framed and character assassinated to cover up their abysmal behaviour, huge conflicts of interest and incompetencies. Please call me out on this and I will provide all the evidence you will need. That is if you have the will to pursue fairness and justice.

I ask with all due respect (which wains daily) that you honour these agreements, or at the very least point out where I am wrong or mistaken. If you do not have the will or stomach for this then please point me in the direction of someone with a moral compass and a spine.

Happy to travel and bring my evidence with me, I have emailed and asked to see Damian O’Connor my local MP, but have received no reply.

As always this email will be publicly posted and on the link below (link has 165 000 reads specific to the industry)…

https://www.plumbers.nz/fellow-practitioners-update/41/fellow-practitioner-issue-236-dated-12-december-2014/1810/msg13287#msg13287


Please do the right thing and stop this corrupt incompetent cronyism. I just want my name cleared and the PGDB to apologise to my wife, while observing the recommendations made in the attached agreements and the NZ Law Commission, paper below in attachments.


Do you believe these well-meaning legal documents are not worth the paper they are written on? Or are the documents to be ignored to protect corrupt cronies? Please can you show this some urgency, preferably before the upcoming election.



Yours with Integrity

Paul Gee


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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #869 on: October 10, 2023, 07:04:37 AM »
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No reply, whatsoever.

Yes I am aware there is an election on and I am not at all important (15 years of being publicly set up and framed by corrupts has effectively illustrated how much I do not matter to these people).

But during an election wouldn't you anything to dismiss ANY claims of corruption and prove there is no corruption? Unless you can't dismiss or prove it...then best policy would be to ignore it...


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