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Q & A - Baths and Showers / Re: Shower head MIN 300mm below top of enclosure?
« Last post by Plumber on January 17, 2020, 07:40:10 AM »
Based on the Internal moisture standards im guessing that as long as you prove that what is above the liner complies with the same standards you should be able to go higher. For example, wall above liner water proofed or maybe there is a paint finish that offers the same level of protection and compliance.

With tiled showers for example this is no issue. Would be interesting to know whether anyone has ever failed a council inspection because of this.

You could around this by replacing the "rose" with a rail and a spray.  ;D

Q & A - Baths and Showers / Shower head MIN 300mm below top of enclosure?
« Last post by RRM on January 16, 2020, 07:37:54 PM »
Hi - I wondered if anyone here has wrestled with this issue and found a solution?

E3/AS1 3.3.3 states shower wall liners and enclosures must extend at least 300mm above the shower rose.

1800mm high kitset shower enclosures are very common in the market, and a compliant shower rose in one of these would need to be positioned no more than 1500mm above floor level to comply (300mm below the top of the enclosure and impervious liner.)

This is below chin height on an average adult and seems very impractical.

Every major NZ bathroom suppliers (as well as Mitre10/Bunnings etc) has in their literature, photos of completed shower enclosures with slide shower fittings that have the shower rose virtually at the top of the  enclosure, with paint finished walls above the liner.

Are all of these non-compliant, or is there another means of compliance for this type of installation?

Asking as I bought one of these enclosure sets to replace a very ugly 1970s shower base and cubicle, that a past owner has retrofitted with a nice modern mixer and slide shower. I would prefer not to touch any of the fixed plumbing, and just re-install all fittings over the new liner, as that would be a simple DIY project. But the head will be near the top of the liner and enclosure and according to 3.3.3 that isn't right.

Thank you very much for your time.
« Last post by Plumber on January 15, 2020, 04:25:29 PM »
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Fellow Practitioners Update / Fellow Practitioner Issue 388 Dated 10 January 2020
« Last post by Wal on January 10, 2020, 06:24:31 AM »
Federation lays formal complaint to the Plumbers Gasfitters and Drainlayers Board regarding the Boards decision to expel the Federation from the Stakeholder Liaison Group. Whats the Government doing to help the industry.
Plumbing / Re: Washing machine drain in wall
« Last post by Plumber on December 20, 2019, 09:11:48 AM »
Hi can you post some pictures?
Plumbing / Washing machine drain in wall
« Last post by Ihavenoidea on December 18, 2019, 07:06:38 PM »
Hi all. Im just checking in regarding some plumbing work I got done last week. I don't want to mention the company but I wasn't too impressed with the guy.

Anyway we have a laundry room and wanted a recessed box behind the washing machine for the drain pipe thing.

He's done all the work but I have 2 concerns...
1. He's used a threaded S-drain thing below it and I'm about to close the gib up. What if it leaks? Is threaded piping allowed in a wall?

2. I had a sink s-drain changed by another plumber and he told me you need to have a air vent thing on the drain.
The one for the washing machine doesn't have a vent... should it?

Thank you for the help
Plumbing / Re: Glue Pot
« Last post by Plumber on December 15, 2019, 07:58:15 PM »
No I cant say I recall seeing one. How many years ago is this? Maybe before my time in NZ (15 years).
Fellow Practitioners Update / Fellow Practitioner Issue 387 Dated 13 December 2019
« Last post by Wal on December 13, 2019, 08:15:06 AM »
Should the industry be provided with the TRUTH?.  Is legislation being used to hide the truth?
Plumbing / Glue Pot
« Last post by Rudge500 on December 08, 2019, 01:51:34 AM »
Hi, I am an Aussie, hopefully I can be forgiven for that? I work in design of plumbing tools and fittings. For about 15 years I have had a bloke in my ear about making or finding a “glue pot” that he got from NZ many years ago. You poured glue into this triangular shape vessel and the brush fitted into it. I have never seen one. Can anyone remember something like this? Anyone still got one? All these years later he still raves on about it. The company I work often develops ideas from plumbers and never robs them, John B
Fellow Practitioners Update / Fellow Practitioner Issue 386 Dated 22 November 2019
« Last post by Wal on November 22, 2019, 06:32:36 AM »
Here we are with issue 386 of the Fellow Practitioner and issues still plague the industry but is it the industry or the regulation of the industry? Is the regulation of the industry supporting anti-competitive behaviour? Are practitioners be held to account when they haven't caused the problems? We discuss these issues and more.
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