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Offline o2b007

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Re: 17 week plumbing course
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2012, 12:02:59 PM »
Not totally true Jax I had I guy last year who completed all his paper work and became registerd in 3 years  they try to enforce 8000hrs but is not compulsary they try to hold back the paper work and courses to stretch it out but if you push them they will push you through as long as they are achiveing good results. they have changed the apprentice regime now i believe that the apprenticship is paid on a yearly basis not by blocks which will mean they will take forever to push you through.
The 20 week pretrade course covers the book work and unit standards that would normally be done in the first year. An apprentice with a pretrade cert  should be starting with the book work for course 2A this is what we had arranged with 2 apprentices we took on 2 years ago

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Re: 17 week plumbing course
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2012, 03:23:38 PM »
What polytech was this through.  I've had this argument with the ITO several times about the pre-trade.  A lot of my apprentices have done the pre-trade and did the one day a week work experience with us.  Were your guys fees reduced to take this into account?  I have been guaranteed by the ITo that they do not reduce fees and have not done so/
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Re: 17 week plumbing course
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2012, 06:06:24 PM »
Auckland unitech also do this if you do a pre trade course then when you start an official apprentiship you start on the year two books...but doing a pre trade is also hours as well and so in reality it cant be done in 3 years fresh of the bat...a per trade course is nearly a year isnt it and then 3 years formal apprentiship which would make nearly 4 in total.

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Re: 17 week plumbing course
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2012, 08:20:34 PM »
One polytec in Wellington does a year, but I think you two days of work experience a week, the other poly tech does a pre trade in 3 months.

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Re: 17 week plumbing course
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2012, 09:32:41 PM »
Just read a post about the wages paid to ex cons....$13.50 an hour, not sure for what work, but that is pretty low.
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Re: 17 week plumbing course
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2012, 06:30:22 PM »
that aint no joke badger i was on $13:50 for FOUR YEARS doing my apprentiship and i was 35years old when i started!!! and then jumped straight to $21 which in my eyes is still underpayed for what i do...and thats the whole reason i did this apprentiship cus im sick of not getting payed what im worth and sick of bosses patting me on the sholder telling me how good i am and yet not showing that in my pay packet!...this country sucks for wage workers heck i was making more 7 years ago over in aus working a brain dead job in a plastics factory than i am today a qualified/licensed plumber!!!
yea im sure there are those good ones out there but they are very few and far between.
But anyways im sitting my craftmans next year and as soon as rego time comes up im on my own!!!...i just think that anyone that does 4 years and then the other two and does not work for themselvs is a bloody fool but everyones diffrent and each to there own.


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Re: 17 week plumbing course
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2012, 08:29:54 PM »
$13.50 for four years!!!  Sounds like someone was taking the piss.  $13.50 to start an apprenticeship is fair enough, with graduated pay rises through the apprenticeship - $21 for newly registered sounds about right - going up the following year - three to four years out $23 - $25 - certifying $26 - $30 depending on where you live.  But then you also have to compare apples with applies - overtime rates?  callout rates?  Meal and tool allowances?  Number of sick leave days?  What is supplied and what is not - always look at the big picture because this tells you what you are really getting - $ per hour is very important, in context with other things e.g. are you allowed to use the work van for personal use etc etc

However that said you still have four years of underpayment to catch up on.


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