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Offline Wal

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Fellow Practitioner Issue 58 15 July 2011
« on: July 15, 2011, 07:08:45 AM »
You be the Judge

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Wal

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 58 15 July 2011
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2011, 09:54:42 AM »
hi guys/Wal, interesting disscovery :- Plumbing Gasfitting & Drainlaying CPD Limited
Company number:    1937022
Incorporated:           18 June 2007
 Director:           Fiona Ann GAVRIEL
Total Shares:             100
Extensive Shareholding:      100 Master Plumbers Gasfitters & Drainlayers NZ Inc
What is going on there, does she need a "please explain", cheers

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 58 15 July 2011
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2011, 08:08:41 PM »
hi guys/Wal, interesting disscovery :- Plumbing Gasfitting & Drainlaying CPD Limited
Company number:    1937022
Incorporated:           18 June 2007
 Director:           Fiona Ann GAVRIEL
Total Shares:             100
Extensive Shareholding:      100 Master Plumbers Gasfitters & Drainlayers NZ Inc
What is going on there, does she need a "please explain", cheers

holy s***te - you guys need to act on this asap before it gets buried, this has the potential to blow things wide open

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this here shows and perhaps proves that things go a hell of alot deeper than what many may have thought - myself included - hands in the pie at the top and insider info/trade

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 58 15 July 2011
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2011, 08:55:14 PM »
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You can't choose who you are.....but you are the sum of your choices.......

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 58 15 July 2011
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2011, 10:44:05 PM »

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 58 15 July 2011
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2011, 11:08:24 PM »
hi guys
in any other businesses this would be called insider training
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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 58 15 July 2011
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2011, 08:59:46 AM »
hi guys, follow the money trail and the truth will be revealed,cheers

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 58 15 July 2011
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2011, 02:39:45 PM »
hi guys, and who else,... Directors

Full legal name: Fiona *** GAVRIEL

Residential Address:
************************ , New Zealand

Appointment Date: 21 Nov 2007

Shareholdings

Total Number of Shares: 10

Shareholders in Allocation

10 SharesMASTER PLUMBERS, GASFITTERS & DRAINLAYERS NZ INCORPORATED

  Ground Floor, 119 Ghuznee Street, Te Aro, Wellington 6011 ,

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 58 15 July 2011
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2011, 10:12:27 AM »
I asked her personally for help and was firstly ignored, then after asking again fobbed off, then when I told all the associations could only come back with, where did you get this email list from, I was an ex president of my association.

Even after being on TV no one from my association has contacted me or anyone from the head office, I have had a few from members from around the country, off their own backs and I commend them for their support and guts and will protect their privacy.

WE NEED A PUBLIC INQUIREY TO CLEAN HOUSE AND SHOW THESE PEOPLE THAT OUR TRADE IS NOT UP FOR SALE NOR OUR ETHICS. IF THE TRADE LOOSES CREDABILITY BECAUSE OF THESE PEOPLE THEN WE ALL LOOSE, WHILE THEY LINE THEIR POCKETS.

NOTHING SHORT OF A PUBLIC INQUIREY AND/OR ROYAL COMMISION, IF YOU GOT NOTHING TO HIDE LETS CLEAR OUR NAMES, IF YOU DO HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE THEN YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE YOUR POSITION OF TRUST AND AUTHOURITY. >:(

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 58 15 July 2011
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2011, 11:57:36 AM »
Hi Badger
I am a member of Master Plumbers and I am sorry that the head office did not offer any sort of help to you or support.  I know that they do not offer legal representation etc  as a member benefit, but it would have been good to know that they might have steered you in the direction of the lawyer etc familiar with this sort of issue - that said I don't think you would have got anyone even half as good as Wal Gordon.  What you need at times like this is moral support more than ever, and practical support - like work references, a bit of assistance for your family etc- and this is the exact sort of thing I would hope your association would bring to you.  We haven't had a member of our association (that I know of) it this postion, but I know we have had members with health and personal issues and the guys have rallied around with offers of lawn mowing, gardening, looking after customers and helping out in the business till the guy is on his feet again.  You know practical support.  It seems you have put yourself forward (as President of an association) and it is a great shame that your association did not come to your support.  I know Ms Gavriel is overseas for about three weeks - perhaps when she comes back she may contact you.  I would hope so... but at the same time I won't hold my breath. 
Have you learned lessons only of those who admired you, and were tender with you, and stood aside for you?  Have you not learned great lessons from those who braced themselves against you, and disputed the passage with you?  (Walt Whitman 1819-1891)  American Poet

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 58 15 July 2011
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2011, 10:25:57 AM »
Hello site users

Please be careful what you say to ensure you are not defaming anyone. We have had to remove some comments under threat of Defamation action.

A defamatory comment is one which has the effect of lowering the estimation of a person in the minds or right thinking members of society.

Thanks for your cooperation

Regards

Wal

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 58 15 July 2011
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2011, 08:13:59 PM »
hi wal that must mean anybody who works in government,plumbers boards,m plumbers we can't mention any body haha

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 58 15 July 2011
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2011, 08:28:17 PM »
A personal opinion is not defamation. It is only when something is published that it becomes defamation. Posting on a forum doesn't count especially as they can't prove who wrote it given none of us are named and it can't be proven who was on the computer at the time.


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