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Offline Wal

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Fellow Practitioner Issue 176 Dated 11 October 2013
« on: October 11, 2013, 04:49:15 AM »
This week we look at the PGDB consultation on Supervision.

We can't bury our head in the sand as supervision is an important issue!! Some people support it and some are against it, and then again, some just don’t understand it.

Supervision helps set the standard in our industry and if it is applied wrongly then it will take us nowhere. Supervision is simply a relationship between senior and junior members of our industry and helps enhance the skills of the junior person, and monitors the quality of the services offered.

Currently, the Board are consulting on supervision, but the Act already states WHAT supervision is and WHO can do it. Supervision means that the work is undertaken under the control and direction of a person authorised under this Act to do the work. The Board does not have the statutory authority to change this definition.
The Board claim this is a review of the existing “Supervision Policy”, but we are suspicious as it has only been in place just over 12 months, so why is it being reviewed already? Is it perhaps that the existing policy empowers the Board over and above their statutory authority?

Read on and get our thoughts and we want your feedback for our final submission.

Linkback: https://www.plumbers.nz/fellow-practitioners-update/41/fellow-practitioner-issue-176-dated-11-october-2013/1561/

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 176 Dated 11 October 2013
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2013, 08:59:27 AM »
Can anyone tell me what's gone so horribly wrong in our industry that we need to make supervision a discipline offence?. 

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 176 Dated 11 October 2013
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2013, 09:13:28 AM »
hi guys/Watchdog, it`s called `revenue gathering`cheers

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 176 Dated 11 October 2013
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2013, 04:32:00 AM »
It all comes back to the qualifications - if we returned to a complete "apprenticeship" which ended with getting licensed and then being able to sign off work etc - instead of the two tier system we have now the problem would be solved.  Go back to 8000-10,000 hour apprenticeships with staggered exams.  Supervision policies could then disappear.
Have you learned lessons only of those who admired you, and were tender with you, and stood aside for you?  Have you not learned great lessons from those who braced themselves against you, and disputed the passage with you?  (Walt Whitman 1819-1891)  American Poet

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 176 Dated 11 October 2013
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2013, 08:16:49 AM »
hi guys, totally agree Jax, if it`s not broken why try to fix it, of course we all know that by trying to fix it they completely broke it, totally incompetent and empire building, cheers

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 176 Dated 11 October 2013
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2013, 05:43:10 AM »
Dead right Jaxcat. 

The industry needs to get off it's arse and have its say. There is a prime opportunity with the consultation being done by The Skills  Organisation on our qualifications.

Go to the meeting and tell them what you think of their proposals once you hear them. If they are good agree but it they are bad say so as if it all goes through we will be stuck with them for a decade and look at the shit we have had for the last decade.


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