this question does my head in!!!...When does an apprentiseship finish...well after 5 years of doing this shit...fuk knowes im getting sick of correcting my boss and fking telling him what the actual codes state!!!...fuk sake im am as fkn qualified as i need to be to compententantly do ANY job a craftsman plumber in the residentail field may come across and some commercial as well im close to completion of doing a 40 unit building MYSELF with only 3 days of push done by my boss...i have sorted EVERYTHING in the entire job and these wankers at the board tell me i have to do another year and more stupid exams and some fricking cpd on top of that to become a craftsman plumber well people i already am a craftsman plumber and i am sick of this shit so sick of it i am going to sit my exams and pass and then go and do a hydrolic engennering degree so i can fk this board and its backwards ways off!!!...
MY LOGICAL mind looks at the crap pile dished out to us today and says lets have a quick comparision of licenses that have the potential to kill...Lets compare it with the driving license

Learner license...must be accopinied by a fully licensed driver at all times...efectivley can only work under someoneles craftsman license
Apprentise...must work under someoneles craftmans license...same as a learner lisense

and this is where we part our ways!!!

RESTRICTED license...can drive ALONE between the hours of 7am and 11pm 
Licensed plumber...yea the licensed plumber gets f****ed over for the hard yards he has put in 8000 fricken hours of supervised work and yet he cant even install a waste to a fkn gully with out being under the supervision of a craftsman plumber...fk sake my logical mind cant take this shit!!! A LICENSED PLUMBER WITH *))) HOURS OF SUPERVISED WORK SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO A LIMITED AMOUNT OF WORK FOR HIMSELF!!!!!!!!!WITN NO SUPERVISION!!!!
HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO ANY WORK THAT REQUIRES NO!!! INSPECTION...ie SWAPPING LIKE FOR LIKE,DOING MAINTANCE WORK basicly any work that requires no council sign off ...a restriced driver can operate in certian circumstances ALONE and so a licensed plumber should be able to operate in certin circumstances ALONE!!!!...i know ALL of you employees have staff the you let operate alone WITHOUT having to check there work!!!
This is what fks me off so much that i will not stay in this trade as much as i love it being able to be the one to deliver life to the public in a safe manner...i will surpass this fked up trade and its fked up rulers...for fk sake if a RESTRICTED DRIVER is able to operate alone after a requested 150hrs EXP....And a LICENSED PLUMBER with friken 8000hrs under his belt CANT DO HIS OWN THING? how fkd up is that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry for all the bad language but this insight had been a bone of contention of mine for a few years now....WE the licensed plumber get NO reward for our 8000 hours of supervised work so they shouldnt fk people around and tell them that it takes an ACTUAL 12,000 YES TWELVE THOUSAND HOURS before you can do one bit of work ALONE...PFSST how fkd up is that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thunder, try this on for size mate, if CPD stays...... you are never fully qualified for more than 12 months and that's if you do all your CPD on the first day of that year........because every year you require more training to get your licence.

It is a sham, started by people who use this bullshit to further their own agenda.

hi guys, well said Rodza your hit the nail squarely on the head there. Makes me think, all the opposition put up against the board and the running of it just does not seem to make any difference at all, will it ever?  just look at all the flak that John Key is taking at the moment but it makes no difference just a couple of spin sentences and all is well agin. As you say Rodza  "NZ gone mad",cheers

"There will come a day eventually....perhaps, many days now from this one, where there are very few plumbers/gasfitters and drainlayers left."

In light of Rodza's comment above think on this, the only ones left will be the ones who are part of the "clique". Meaning more work for them and a monopoly on rates. Putting the opposition out of business is great business for those left.

All in the face of the NZ Law Commission recommendations against industry groups being on industry Boards, total collusion and corruption for profit, control and power.....all ultimately at the expense of the public's pocket and safety.

NZ hasn't gone mad, a small few have gotten drunk on power and gotten very, very greedy...NZ has gone quiet...and allowed this to happen.