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Offline robbo

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Best Practice Guide for Gasfitters
« on: August 17, 2013, 03:05:06 PM »
hi guys, came across this `Guide for Gasfitters` on ess web site. I am sure that it is very helpfull in lots of ways but the following statement seems a tad strange, any other opinions? cheers
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There will be other times where a fault is discovered that, although unsafe, presents no
Immediate danger to life or property. There may also be faults where the installation does not
meet the current installation requirements but may not be unsafe.
In such situations there is no legal obligation under the Regulations to inform either the owner
or occupier or Energy Safety.


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Re: Best Practice Guide for Gasfitters
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2013, 08:18:12 PM »
hi guys, more info for gasfitters,cheers

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Re: Best Practice Guide for Gasfitters
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2013, 11:55:19 AM »
hi guys, recently completed the `on-line` Rinnai Infinity course on hot water heater maintenance, worth 11 points and well worth the not so small amount of effort. Did the i`Heat install and commissioning earlier in the year all good stuff from Rinnai who make a great effort on our behalf. You can access these courses from their web site, they will send a certificate when you pass if you request it, cheers 

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Re: Best Practice Guide for Gasfitters
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2013, 12:41:17 PM »
These Rinnai courses are extremely good and the ONLY courses I've been to or completed on line where a brain has been  required.  Was disgusted at one 12 point course held by 2 companies at suppliers this year. They were in a hurry and gave everyone the answers. Wasn't worth the petrol getting there.

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Re: Best Practice Guide for Gasfitters
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2013, 02:59:23 PM »
These Rinnai courses are extremely good and the ONLY courses I've been to or completed on line where a brain has been  required.  Was disgusted at one 12 point course held by 2 companies at suppliers this year. They were in a hurry and gave everyone the answers. Wasn't worth the petrol getting there.



that shiite really gets up me

you need to complain that shiiite to the board and let the fed know

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Re: Best Practice Guide for Gasfitters
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2013, 01:22:07 PM »
Ahh yes Integrated - except the PGDB don't really want to know.  The Federation have given them numerous examples of this sort of course - you know the ones where you are essentially "buying" points as opposed to undertaking upskilling - they just don't want to know.  They started this scheme and yet they don't fund it, or organise it.  Suppliers have run to take part, no doubt thinking they are assisting the industry at large, but essentially all they are doing is propping up the PGDB and their shitty CBL scheme.  I don't think anyone would argue that genuine upskilling is worth it for all, but dressing up a sales course as upskilling is bollocks, and ticking boxes and giving answers is bollocks too - and this is exactly what happens at the Plumbing World Road Shows, the PDA road shows etc.  No supplier is going to give you a hard time if you are buying product off them the next day.  I do have to say the Rinnai courses are well worth it - so much so that many of my team will do them even when they have sufficient points simply because they add value to the licensed person.
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Re: Best Practice Guide for Gasfitters
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2013, 02:27:53 PM »
Hi guys, can`t understand why the board does not want to know after all they would have approved the said courses (and taken a fee for doing so) and should see that they are run properly otherwise it would be pointless as an `upskilling` exercise that they say we need.  I as others do, upskill anyway and always have done but I can understand others who take the easy option of suppliers courses set up at the merchants as a lot in our trades do not have the time or extra money to do the master plumbers courses that are set up out of work hours and not always in the easy to get to areas. I would also not blame the merchants for taking the opportunity to show off their products for points as they used to do it for free anyway before the system was forced upon us, they also have to pay the board for the privilege,cheers 

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Re: Best Practice Guide for Gasfitters
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2013, 03:52:27 PM »
Hi Robbo

The reason the Board don't want to know is that they don't like criticism of anything they have done such as accrediting the courses. They know the CPD is failing but they won't admit that simply because it would make them look bad yet again. They just can't handle people questioning and holding them accountable, that's why they don't like the Federation. 

I think most people in the industry would be forgiving of them if they admitted their mistakes and corrected them for improvement rather than prolonging the pain and making people go public with complaints.


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