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Title: Honor Among Thieves.
Post by: robbo on November 15, 2011, 04:16:50 PM
 Will the Board provide  special treatment for these guys? Jobs for your mates, cheers
Inmates at Christchurch Men's Prison are to play a part in the rebuilding of the quake damaged Christchurch City. Corrections Minister Judith Collins says a new trades training complex at the prison will enable inmates to gain skills in Plumbing, roofing, Drainlaying, painting, and decorating. She says prisoners will be approved for the training based on their release dates and their willingness to help in Christchurch’s Collins says it's geared towards supporting rebuilding efforts in the region over the coming years.
Title: Re: Honor Among Thieves.
Post by: Thunderhead on November 15, 2011, 05:25:49 PM
so how the hell are inmates going to complete there 8000hrs of on site training...these idiots at the top should stop and think from time to time!
Title: Re: Honor Among Thieves.
Post by: spud on November 15, 2011, 06:57:01 PM
Watch your knicker drawers ladies. Targets gonna love this
Title: Re: Honor Among Thieves.
Post by: Jaxcat on November 15, 2011, 10:13:02 PM
One rule for all - no exceptions.  So who's ticket will they work under while they are helping to "rebuild" Christchurch??  And will they have to pay for their training like everyone else, or will we be paying it through our taxes - watch out - the PGDB will have a licence fee, a disciplinary levy, a prosecutions fee and a "pay for the prisoners to train so they can do your job at no pay and cut you out of earning a living levy..."  The ITO would probably like a slice of that pie - might help them keep the wolves away from the door.
Title: Re: Honor Among Thieves.
Post by: robbo on November 15, 2011, 10:32:54 PM
hi guys/spud, don`t worry about the knicker drawer, lock up the ladies/Jewelry/Alcohol/money, it will be like a candy shop with everything free,cheers
Title: Re: Honor Among Thieves.
Post by: robbo on November 16, 2011, 09:10:30 AM
hi guys, new courses for plumbing points could be:-

How to stay drug free. / Anger management. / How to stay calm when faced with temptation,any other suggestions, cheers
Title: Re: Honor Among Thieves.
Post by: robbo on November 16, 2011, 10:04:36 AM
hi guys, could this example be the future of our industry in years to come,cheers

Alcohol and drugs big issues for equine industry.NewstalkZB | 05:58am Tue 15 Nov 2011 High staff turnover and problems with alcohol and drug abuse are being blamed for what's being described as our problematic equine industry. The comments come from Waikato University's Associate Professor Stuart Locke, who'll be speaking at industry event Equidays this week. He believes the sector's broken and doesn't have good career path options."Those areas seem to me to have attracted people who find themselves moving into a little bit too much drugs, a little bit too much alcohol and of course a lot of tobacco."

Title: Re: Honor Among Thieves.
Post by: Enn on November 16, 2011, 02:47:42 PM

Inmates at Christchurch Men's Prison are to play a part in the rebuilding of the quake damaged Christchurch City. Corrections Minister Judith Collins says a new trades training complex at the prison will enable inmates to gain skills in Plumbing, roofing, Drainlaying, painting, and decorating. towards supporting rebuilding efforts in the region over the coming years.
Guess they will have to fight the immigrants that are supposed to be flooding in to work there... what a crock of shit.
I mean its good that people are trying to sort it out but there seems to be too many 'experts'  and morons giving sage advice about what they see as the solutions to a situation that's not fully understood.
Maybe Jerry brownlee can make special provision as he is the most powerful man in the country now post quake........




Title: Re: Honor Among Thieves.
Post by: Thunderhead on November 16, 2011, 03:16:26 PM
it rearlly annoys me because i have had to struggle for four years on the minimum wage to complete my training and take on student loan debt and take on a personal loan of 15k to stay afloat while doing my study...and now they devalue all that stress and struggle i have had to go through by giving a common crook a bloody ticket for free!...
What should actualy happen is the crim should serve his time then on date of release he could be placed with a plumber employed by the govt to train these people then the crim should follow the same path everyone else has had to follow to get trained...get a student loan take on debt and struggle like the rest of us had to to gain qualification why the hell should they be given a free ride just because there inside!

anyways thats just my view.
Title: Re: Honor Among Thieves.
Post by: integrated on November 16, 2011, 06:36:46 PM
guys surely they are not going to just "GIVE" out licenses to anyone - surely they will be mandated to complete training and be in employment etc just as anyone else has to?
Title: Re: Honor Among Thieves.
Post by: Badger on November 16, 2011, 09:36:13 PM
It all depends who you know and who it suits, licencing is just a way to say who can and who can't work, and its totally at the discretion of the Board and their puppet masters, and who it suits, if I had known instead of doing my apprenticeship and then redoing it all when I moved to NZ, I could have held up a bank, done the time ( took me about 8 years to resit every thing in NZ) and then come out with a nice lump sum and got my ticket. It makes a mockery and takes the piss. Its insulting, especialy when we are in hard times and there are people doing it hard, why not sell the government BMW's and get the top 1% of the NZ rich list to help out. Again the hard working grafters get shafted.

CPD for this year..... safe cracking and how to fence stolen goods, if it didn't effect my life so much it would be hysterical, the whole reason they're in proson is because they don't like 9 to 5, whats going to change....on the bright side perhaps the P labs will be safer and they could make some mean bongs with the pipe skills.

I don't mind following a good well balanced and wise leader, but f****ing morons and window lickers.......
Title: Re: Honor Among Thieves.
Post by: robbo on November 16, 2011, 10:18:51 PM
hi guys, i don`t know why they do not train them to be politicians/acountants/finance managers/board members etc, they would be more suited to that kind of work,cheers
Title: Re: Honor Among Thieves.
Post by: Jaxcat on November 16, 2011, 10:49:31 PM
Obviously they aren't bright enough to be gasfitters ;)  - only plumbers and drainlayers (if you see what Judith Collins said).... ;D
Title: Re: Honor Among Thieves.
Post by: Wal on November 17, 2011, 07:19:41 AM
Maybe this is the Governments hidden agenda where they bully the ones who play by the rules and give the benefit of the doubt to others.

I read once:

Democracy's Achilles Heel

The Masses want the state to provide fore them in every way and the politicians who promise the most largesse (money or gifts) are the ones who get elected.

They in turn give the people what they want, which places an ever increasing burden on the most productive members of society
Title: Re: Honor Among Thieves.
Post by: Rodza1 on November 23, 2011, 07:19:05 PM
For F#$ks sake.....heard about this a while back.

Why is it in this country if you bend or break the rules things come easier but if you play fair and do what is right you get shit on.
I really hope they bin this one. Reason number #245 to move to aussie.