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Title: Installing a gas hob
Post by: keeweechris on November 05, 2011, 02:32:37 PM
Hi guys,

I'm not a registered gasfitter, but just a regular joe with a mechanical engineering degree. I'm building a new kitchen, and want to install a 4-burner gas hob. At a previous house, there was a gas hob supplied from a 9kg bbq bottle outside, and I'd like to do the same here.

Wondering what the regulations were regarding doing the pipework and installation myself, I discovered NZS5261 (which I haven't read) and this publication from Christchurch City Council: http://resources.ccc.govt.nz/files/GuidelinesForResidentialLPG-docs.pdf (http://resources.ccc.govt.nz/files/GuidelinesForResidentialLPG-docs.pdf)

It tends to indicate that I am legally allowed to perform the installation myself, and I don't need a certificate from a certified gasfitter, because I'm dealing with a supply of under 15kg.

Can someone who has read NZS5261 verify this? Or is it a load of a$$?

BTW, I'm more than happy to get a certified gasfitter to do the work, if thats the law.

Thanks heaps guys
Chris
Title: Re: Installing a gas hob
Post by: aboutgas on November 05, 2011, 07:40:39 PM
Hi Keewee

The above doc recommends that you get a licenced gas fitter to install you hob and this is a very wise call as he will know all the regulations that need to be adhered to.

It is not necessary to certify a 9kg installation but in the event of a accident or fire how do you prove to your insurance company that the hob was installed to the current standards? No proof no payout!!
Title: Re: Installing a gas hob
Post by: robbo on November 05, 2011, 07:46:41 PM
hi guys, snap,cheers
Title: Re: Installing a gas hob
Post by: keeweechris on November 05, 2011, 09:56:42 PM
"It is not necessary to certify a 9kg installation but in the event of a accident or fire how do you prove to your insurance company that the hob was installed to the current standards? No proof no payout!!"

True, I hadn't really thought of that. Cheers.
Title: Re: Installing a gas hob
Post by: hefzibah on November 05, 2011, 10:08:17 PM
Hi there.

Clearly states only gas installations can be carried out by a person authorised under PGD act.
Clearly states what is a gas installation in the regs. 2010.
In a nutshell only a certifying, licensed or an exemption cert. person can do that work........ it just doesn't need certification if the install is supplied by a 15kg or less lpg cylinder.

hope this helps.
Title: Re: Installing a gas hob
Post by: keeweechris on November 05, 2011, 10:21:22 PM
Thanks hefzibah.

But what "clearly states"? The NZS5261 standard?
Title: Re: Installing a gas hob
Post by: hefzibah on November 06, 2011, 09:49:17 AM
hi there

it is a bit nerdy,

Basically.

Plumbers, gasfitters and Drainlayers act 2006, Gas act 1992-  these are act of parliament  --Law
Gas(safety and measurement) regulations 2010----------- law

these documents will give you definitions and requirements on who can do what

NZS 5261 is a standard- and although Part 1 of the standard is mandatory, the rest is a way of doing things
This standard tells how, what etc how a gas installation or part must perform.etc, etc, not who can do it.

Come next week. NZS 5261 will be an alternative solution and a new standard will be cited as the norm.

To sum up, like every ones else has mentioned.
GET A CURRENT CERTIFYING GASFITTER to do the job.

You will find many fine tradespersons on this site. just log into the plumbing directory.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Installing a gas hob
Post by: keeweechris on November 08, 2011, 04:21:45 PM
Cool, so the Standards define what SHOULD be done, and the Act enforces it.

Yeah, I'll get the gas man in. It should be a simple/quick job.

Thanks for the advice.
Chris
Title: Re: Installing a gas hob
Post by: roberto on August 15, 2014, 09:07:49 PM
im pretty sure anyone who isn't licenced is NOT allowed to even install the pipe.....LICENCED GASFITTERS ONLY!!!
Title: Re: Installing a gas hob
Post by: robbo on August 15, 2014, 09:58:37 PM
hi guys, Roberto it`s not a gas pipe until gas or an appliance is connected to it, so the reality is that anyone could install the pipe but when the gasfitter connects it he then certifies that it is to code and safe,cheers
Title: Re: Installing a gas hob
Post by: roberto on August 19, 2014, 09:45:29 PM
still a job us gasfitters miss out on..... >:(