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I see the Plumbers, Gasfitters and Drainlayers Board are riding into town - and have invited plumbers, gasfitters and drainlayers to attend a meeting with a Board member and the CEO to discuss industry issues. I hope all the practitioners in this geographic area make the most of this opportunity and ask the Board about the audits as a term and condition of licensing, why plumbers, gasfitters and drainlayers are paying almost 10 times what their electrical counterparts are for licensing, why sparkies can go to two year licensing and we can't, why fees are so high, why the Board continues to get it so wrong when it comes to interpreting the legislation....
Don't complain if you don't take the time to turn up and discuss opportunities.
INVITATION : INDUSTRY BRIEFING
All plumbers, gasfitters and drainlayers in the area
are invited to attend
Board Member Bill Irvine and Chief Executive Max Pedersen of the Plumbers Gasfitters and Drainlayers Board are meeting with Taupo area plumbers, gasfitters and drainlayers at 4.30pm on Wednesday 5th March 2014 at the Taupo Cosmopolitan Club (Ruapehu Room), 5 Taniwha Street, Taupo.
All plumbers, gasfitters and drainlayers in the area are welcome to attend. There will be a briefing about current issues from the Board representatives and the opportunity for questions about any Board related business.
Our mailing address is:
comms@pgdb.co.nz
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hi guys, yes Jax agree but we should stump up the cost of allowing Wal to attend (if he can) then the relevant questions will be asked, not a lot of time to organize going to the meeting as it is on wed 5th,cheers
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Hi Robbo
Yes I agree Wal would be a great person to attend
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I am intrigued to see if all local areas are going to get a visit from the CEO and a Board member. Surely - otherwise what allure does Taupo have for the Board that say, Gore doesn't? Or Wellington even - where they are based. Should be reasonably easy to organise a local meeting there.
C'mon Taupo and it's surrounds - tell us your secret!! How did you manage to get this meeting???????
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hi guys/Jax, perhaps they have worked out that there is no one there to ask embarrassing questions, or they maybe 'Trout Fishermen`cheers
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If you don't go to all main centres, then you should go to any.....where's the fairness.......fishing for sure
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I would say it is more a case of being seen to do the right thing rather than doing the right thing.
Bill Irvine is from Taupo so perhaps they are doing meetings in the areas where the Board member may have some support?
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Perhaps its out his back garden with just his relatives and golf buddies, that's fair (about as fair as these guys do)
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Perhaps one of the questions could be how Bills lack of recent experience in Drainlaying qualifies him as "one of the boys" 2) Is it fair that someone who hasn't done any practical work for more than 20 years, but has paid licence fees, gets to be of Certified status, when in reality he would have no idea at all of how to lay a drain, plumb a house etc. There are many of these old timers around who are qualified only because they paid their fees. Who will audit them and who will be brave enough to say their licenses are cancelled.
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Sounds like it might be an interesting meeting. I am very keen to hear how it goes.
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Yeah that would be a great meeting to be a fly on the wall at, wonder if they shout beers for the guys, it being at the cosie, n all.
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How did this go guys?
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Don't tell me no one went to this? :(
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Don't live in Taupo mate, would have been there with bells on other wise
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don't live there either. hope someone can report.
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it would appear 11 people attended, four from one company, three from another, four business owners and one other. Looks like it was a bit of a snooze fest where the Board were trying to win everyone over.
When asked about the protest action of pay no fees to the PGDB the Registrar apparently claimed licences were up on last year.
Another waste of time? I wonder what the real reason for the trip to Taupo was?
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11 people? So does that mean:
a) Most gasfitters, plumbers and drainlayers in Taupo and the outlying reaches are thrilled with what the PGDB are doing?
b) People don't care
c) People don't think their opinions count any more
e) There were other more exciting things on in Taupo that same day - like watching paint dry
Can we hear from someone that attended? Was the meeting short or long? Did they do all the talking, or were people able to ask questions?
You know that story about licensing being up - I've heard it before - and it didn't make sense when you saw the actual figures. Lies, damn lies and statistics...
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Jaxcat This is an outstanding result for the Board.
Remember no response is a YES and is totally supportive of the Board or at least that's the way it works with consultation.
I think they have been spinning so much bullshit that now they actually believe it themselves.
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I bet it wasn't well advertised....except when they phoned their mates to turn up......
ALL meetings should be advertised 2 weeks before in the local news paper and there should be a meeting held in each main centre across the board (pardon the pun) for a real consultation to be carried out.........but they wouldn't like what was said.
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There needs to be a "Meet the Board Roadshow" that goes around small towns as well. If you live in Kaitaia, it's highly unlikely that you forgo a days work and pay to travel to Auckland and back just to meet the Board. Even if they went to Whangarei, it's not going to help those further north. Same goes for the remote areas in the South Island - travelling 4 hours there, attending a meeting, travelling 4 hours home is not a happening thing for a lot of guys. especially if the meetings are at night.
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hi guys, watchdog says: (Remember no response is a YES and is totally supportive of the Board or at least that's the way it works with consultation) my opinion is that consultation results should be taken as a % of the response, not the non response. We have an `General Election` coming up in September where if you don`t vote you don`t count and is not a vote for the party in power, cheers
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I agree with robbo, this is a rub ya nose in it for the board as clearly tradesmen in the central districts don't or wont be bothered with the pgdb. and that's why they only had 11 ppl.
The board should be worried... very worried. its time for change beware max and bill