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No word officially yet, but if you check out the PGDB website you'll see under the photo of Peter Jackson it says (Chair) and Graham Hardie (Deputy Chair). The picture of the Board has Alan Bickers (former Chair).
Not sure if its a faux par, or someone has started to update the website.
Sadly I have to say that if Mr Jackson is the new chair then there is unlikely to be any more co-operation with industry than we have seen under the former Chair. Mr Jackson is certainly not a friend of the Federation and has made disparaging comments about them in Info Briefs previously. Let's hope it is a faux par and that we see a Chair who is willing to work more with industry and engage in conversation with the Federation.
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Are we getting other peoples leftovers?
He the one who was the deputy chair of NZ Plumbers Merchants and was ousted for someone else but still sits on their Board wasn't he?.
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And Mr Hardie is the "British" gas fitter who didn't know about the "British" standard that totally exonerates me.....where's Laurel?
Lol Laurel and Hardie........you couldn't write this shit.
So we have stopped "Bickering" and taking the fur "Kern Uren"..........now we got Laurel and feckin Hardie......where's Marty Feldman...........I am rolling around on the floor.
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Just a thought...and I hope Marty and Oliver are reading this.......perhaps they have appointed a new captain (and cabin boy) to escort the good ship PGDB to the ocean floor.....just a thought.........I am wobbling my fat cheeks and flipping my tie whilst looking perplexed over this and my mate is scratching his un-kept hair..........back to the floor hahahahahhahahahaha, lol.
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Badger, I do have to say your comments always make me smile - and even laugh out loud!
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http://www.parliament.nz/resource/0000258413
I personally hope I am Mr Bickers problem.......
Imagine if some one under this kind of pressure went to Aramoana for a holiday, or even went to watch the new batman film.
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link from our parliament website, what would YOU do??
yes you sat in your office chair and came home to this..............from the link above...........
35. By far the worst event on a personal level was during the build up and preparation for my Hearing, the “impartial” investigator’s lawyer sent to my home, unmarked child sexual abuse case notes to prove his point on probabilities. As they were unmarked of their vile content, my long suffering wife read them and I came home to find her hysterical. At this time she was facing living in a caravan for the winter with her husband working away, minding our two young sons, as we were financially forced to sell our home. This situation that my wife faced later happened and I have had to work away for nearly two years since. I have told the present CEO of the Board about this, he has no problem with it and another PGDB member’s solution that he offered to me was “…had I thought of returning to the UK or going to Aussie”.
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but the master Plumbers went after me...........an ex president......and some even lead the crusade against me.
Mr Jacksie was on the impartiality* hearing.....and voted his own self impartial, personally.....perhaps he couldn't see straight, and was wanting to get home to watch home and away, well it was ten to two........back to the floor......hahahaha .............feck em....total clowns.
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adjective
not prejudiced towards or against any particular side or party; fair; unbiased
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imˌpartiˈality, imˈpartialness noun
imˈpartially adverb
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= neutral, objective, detached, just, fair, equal, open-minded, equitable, disinterested, unbiased, even-handed, nonpartisan, unprejudiced, without fear or favour, nondiscriminating,
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British English: impartial Pronunciation for impartial If you are impartial, you are able to act fairly because you are not personally involved in a situation....impartial advice on which products best suit the customer's needs.ɪmˈpɑːʃəl ADJECTIVE
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hello guests watching how you doin?
Join the fracas, clowns........ no back bone, brains or morals
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......the thing is when you fill your ranks full of people who are no threat to you and not as smart as you think you are ....and you yourself were chosen for those very reasons.......(so you and your predecessors can control their charges) and back stabbing and power struggles are the norm....which way do you take your little club...... up or down?
I hope all your "mates' show you the contempt YOU deserve, when the wolves are at the door......GOOD LUCK! with mates like that who needs enemies?......your crew will do it for us, out in the light.....see ya clowns.
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...............and to my fellow tradesman....just to set the record straight....... I didn't complain about all the gasfitters in my area, just the dick who nearly killed someone, that was a just ploy to make me a pariah in my industry......which sadly worked, cheers.
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MEDIA RELEASE | New Board Chairman Announced
13 Feb 2014 (Thu) - 15 Mar 2014 (Sat)
The Plumbers, Gasfitters and Drainlayers Board (PGDB) today announced the appointment of its new chairman, effective immediately.
The Board’s Chief Executive, Max Pedersen, said upon a unanimous decision taken at a board meeting yesterday Peter Jackson, Director of h2o design ltd (Queenstown) has been appointed Chairman of the Board.
Peter replaces Alan Bickers as Chairman of the PGDB, and joins Graham Hardie owner of River City Gas and NZ Gas Group (Wanganui) appointed as the new Deputy Chairman. Craig O’Connell, owner/director of the management consulting firm, Recruitment & Performance Consulting Ltd (Wellington) was re-elected Chairman of the Board’s Audit & Risk Committee.
Commenting on his new role, Chairman Peter Jackson said: “It is a true honour for me to be appointed as the new Chairman of the Board. The past three years have been one of repairing the reputation of the Board and ensuring the Act, which is to ensure the Health and Safety of New Zealanders is paramount and is upheld by the industry. I am looking forward to continue to work alongside the Board, the Chief Executive and his staff who have worked diligently during the past three years in achieving positive growth in this direction”.
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Reading that statement someone must have lased the Boards fee lunch with cannabis.
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I think that means I get the chocolate fish? So two practitioners heading a consumer protection board? Will we see a change in the way things go - it doesn't look likely from the press release. It's time this Board was sucked into MoBIE and a licensing Board across regulated industries was formed. It would save the NZ tax payer and the NZ builders, electricians and plumbers, gasfitters and drainlayers a fortune - actually scratch that because sparkies have already saved a fortune with their sensible Board, - perhaps just the rest of us might save some money.
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. I am looking forward to continue to work alongside the Board, the Chief Executive and his staff who have worked diligently during the past three years in achieving positive growth in this direction”.
This is what happens when you believe your own press. I would not have thought the reputation of the PGDB had been enhanced in any way in the last three years. I would say the divide between them and industry was wider than ever, and they have been seen to act in an illegal manner till their mates in Parliament saved their arses. Some of the transcript at both the RRC hearings and the Select Committee has been scathing of the behaviour of the Board. Talk to any MP and they will tell you that when the subject of the PGDB is bought up in caucus committees, or meetings everyone wants to duck for cover because they know it isn't going to be good.
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Agree totally Jaxcat.
The problem is we as an industry have let them get away with being clowns for far too long and now the illegal stupid behaviour is expected and is common place.
The other 8 members of the Board must be totally out of touch with reality to vote the way they have.
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That's a ditto from me too Jaxcat :(
i see nothing will change.
These clowns MUST go! and i think its great wagon for a labour party mp to get on and grill the hell out of flip flop and his doings!during an election year! i am truely discussed in the pgdb and their LACK of improvement in the last 3 years!
i think Mr Jackson is a hypocrite ???and he is a band aide on a 4 inch water main!... good as useless >:(
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hi guys, yes I am waiting for the nats to come knocking at my door, I`ll be quizzing them on the amendment bill and why they voted for it,cheers
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Yes Robbo - you may want to ask then why three members of the Regulations Review Committee made recommendations to the house and then went and voted against their own reccommendations. The system needs to change.
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hi guys, (The Board’s Chief Executive, Max Pedersen, said upon a unanimous decision taken at a board meeting yesterday Peter Jackson, Director of h2o design ltd (Queenstown) has been appointed Chairman of the Board)
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so how much of our money did they waste putting adverts in national newspapers when they already knew who the job was going to go to, one of their mates who by virtue of the facts that he has his own plumbing company it must be a `conflict of interest`, cheers
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`Director of h2o design ltd` well I didn’t know that he was the ` designer` of water, I thought it was a natural element, they `board members` will take credit for anything.
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So we can expect more of the same then, that'll work.........
Who is the opposite number for flip flop Williamson from the Labour party?
Perhaps each of us should get in touch with him or her, it is an election year after all.
Any idea why old Bickers isn't seeing out his commitment?
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hi guys,
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Labour associate spokesperson for Building and Construction Raymond Huo, cheers
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Then guys tell him how you feel and send Mr Hou some evidence/situations/statements to take to Parliament and ask flip flop for an explanation on what has happened and what has gone on.......that's how a democracy works best. Mr Hou can't do much if he don't know.
Its an election year......
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So.................we lost Mr Williamsons mate and gained two Master Plumbers.....who now lead the Board and have an over whelming influence?
From the Paper by the NZ Law Commission....http://www.lawcom.govt.nz/sites/default/files/publications/2008/01/Publication_131_385_IP6_Tribunals_in_NZ.pdf
Politically neutral appointments
5.8 a strong theme to emerge from our discussions with tribunal members and
departments that administer tribunals was that the appointment process must
be merit-based if members are to be of a high standard. Merit-based appointments
have significant implications for independence, as they help dispel any suggestion
that members have been appointed based on political patronage or favouritism.
While government departments will necessarily be involved in the appointment
process, appointments should not be “political” in the sense that the government
deliberately selects members who might be seen as favouring its own interests.295
Having appointment processes which appear to be based on merit, and are
politically neutral, is therefore important for two reasons. First, it encourages
public confidence that tribunal members are of a high standard of competence
and integrity, and, second, it ensures that they perform their duties free
from undue influence by government or others.296 We reiterate that there is no
evidence of members being biased in favour of particular political views;
however it is important that there is no perception of lack of independence.
From the same people who brought us........
5.3 it has frequently been suggested that independence comprises two distinct yet
interrelated components: impartiality and institutional independence.289
impartiality refers to a tribunal’s approach to deciding cases without any personal
interest or bias. This is seen as essential to good decision-making, as an impartial
decision-maker will be better able to determine facts and to apply standards
accurately.290 institutional independence refers to the structural or institutional
framework which secures the appearance of, and actual, impartiality.
some distance ought to be maintained between the decision-maker and disputing
parties. in this sense institutional independence encourages impartial
decision-making, and is also valuable in engendering public confidence that
tribunals will decide disputes in an impartial manner.291 This approach has
informed our analysis. However in this paper we have not considered the issues
specifically under these two headings. in this chapter, we identify some key
issues around independence in New Zealand tribunals as being impartiality,
appointments, tenure and administration.
And of course the whole reason why Master Plumbers are according to our own NZ Law Commission.....
5.36 a difficulty arises here in that occupational regulatory and disciplinary bodies are
often funded by the relevant industry, which may adversely affect perceptions of
their independence. However, this funding is necessary. We suggest that it may be
acceptable for these bodies to be funded through mechanisms such as licensing fees
and industry levies provided that they are independent from industry associations
and other purely industry groups, and that other mechanisms are in place to
safeguard their independence. For example, in its recent review of the real estate
agents act 1976, the Ministry of Justice suggested that the body responsible for
licensing and disciplinary matters ought to be “independent from the industry,”
meaning that the real estate institute of New Zealand should not be able to exercise
control over it. This body would be constituted as a separate body that would be
required to report annually to Parliament. Finally, it was seen as important for
public perceptions of independence that the Minister of Justice should appoint
members, rather than the industry appointing the members.337 We note that these
recommendations arose in a context of public concern about the real estate industry.
However, we suggest that the underlying principles reflect a wider trend towards
greater independence for occupational bodies, and that the recommendations can
be considered as an example of best practice in any event.
When we have laws that only apply to those who are governed but not the enforcers of that law.......what do we have?????????
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When we have laws that only apply to those who are governed but not the enforcers of that law.......what do we have?
I don't think it is a democracy.......
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provided that they are independent from industry associations
and other purely industry groups, and that other mechanisms are in place to
safeguard their independence
So........ how can we have a Master Plumber Chair and Deputy Chair............. the Board is meant to be independent of industry groups..........it is totally being lead by them............
Are we second or third class citizens of NZ......are we below the law........lesser people???
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So Mr Jackson wants to meet as many people as he can from industry......cool, book me in then.....
Just a few things to tidy up first and I will be requesting an appointment with him, and we can discuss kangaroo courts, corruption, witch-hunts and flower arranging.
I can just see it now he walks in see's me and the voice over for the advert says....."he should a gone to spec savers".....lol.
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hi guys, I`m sure he meant that he wants to beat as many people as he can from industry, I`ll give him a go I'm sure with jujitsu and kung fu training I`ll survive,cheers
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hi, guys, august in-brief for anyone who has not got it, cheers
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Whats the point? what CAN you complain about?
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