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second hand appliances
« on: August 16, 2014, 08:00:52 AM »
Hi all,

just wondering what the technical requirements are behind using second hand appliances?

Is it up to the certifying gasfitter to test and deem appropriate for use?

Are we governed by the safety certification on the appliance?

Have not really been able to find much info on this so any help appreciated!


Cheers

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Re: second hand appliances
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2014, 10:44:04 AM »
First check if on the ESS website, secondly recommend that it is checked over before installation (i.e. tell the customer that they could be wasting a lot of money if they get it installed and it doesn't work), we always advise availability of parts for second hand appliances i.e. can they still be purchased, how old the appliance is etc.  If it is not safe or fit for purpose then the gasfitter would be responsible.   No different in my mind than the things you have to do when putting in a new appliance.  You can't pass on responsibility to anyone else.
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Re: second hand appliances
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2014, 01:34:03 PM »
Thanks Jax - yes we check all appliances on ess, some we have not been able to find from main brands rinnai etc because I guess they are so old - anything 10+ yr old I prefer to not even look at.

Alot selling cheap and getting shipped around country also - trademe etc - in some cases people have been purchasing appliances that are 15+ yr old - nothing wrong with that if you can verify source and perhaps only moving locally but when you have no idea where it has come from and if the appliance has been looked after & maintained which is then shipped from one end of country to the other it starts to give a man the #&%@'s.

Thanks for the reply - thought there may have been some legislative procedure/protocol to follow.

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Re: second hand appliances
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2014, 05:48:41 PM »
Some interesting changes to the Gas (Safety and Measurement) Amendment Regulations 2014 (2014/205).  See Regulation 75 has been replaced (Responsibilityof persons hiring or leasing gas appliances, fittings and gas installations) - replaced with Responsibilities of persons hiring or leasing out gas appliances, fittings, or gas installations or property or premises containing them:

Every person who hires or leases out any gas appliance, fittings, or gas installation or any property or premises containing a gas appliance, fittings or gas installation must:
(a)  Take all practicable steps to ensure that the gas appliance, fittings, or gas installation is safe at the commencement of the hire or lease; and
(b) ensure that the gas appliance, fittings, or gas installation is accompanied by instructions for its safe use, including information on any maintenance or ongoing safety inspections that are required.
(2)  For the purpose of subclause (1) (a)....

And 75A - Responsibilities of landlord for gas appliances, fittings, and gas installations at rented residential premises...

Well worth having a look at these changes (33 pages in all) - should be able to be downloaded from the ESS website or the Parliamentary website,  Came into force July 31 2014.



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