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Offline Badger

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Re: fact or fiction?
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2014, 08:49:07 PM »
I wonder if he had any relatives in the gas industry interest groups, similar groups like Hammond and Darnley.....hmmm, I wonder.......answers on a post card.....

I got made a scapegoat for one mate of the Board, even though I had warned about it for 6 years before, and this level of danger goes under the carpet????

That's fair....where do I send my licence fee again, hell its a donation to keep the public safe I might send twice as much as what they are asking for........as long as I can roll it into a sphincter sized suppository.

 
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« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2014, 09:00:00 PM »
Now read those news articles below, think about the date of these articles, the amount of unsafe work covered and the risk to the public, these articles written just months after the explosion that nearly killed a man, wrecked his business, made me loose my business, home and time with my kids, because of lies told by these clowns at the Board..........and read the bullshit "findings" spewed by these corrupt wankers, see attached......

Now apply what they said about me, to the guy in the articles............


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« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2014, 09:04:52 PM »
And this one bullshit charge is blown away by a British Standard.....you'll notice the cunts talk about the British Courts in this "finding".....


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« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2014, 09:10:31 AM »
This may or may not be relevant but I heard the old guy got off on a technicality with the police (mostly due to the time period since the offences). Apparently not long after his son who was/is a member of Institute of Professional Engineers of NZ (IPENZ) was given Gasfitter Certifying Status along with another person when neither had done any time of tools or passed the licensing or certifying exams.  Wasn't Allan Bickers in IPENZ?


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« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2014, 11:27:02 AM »
Yes Watchdog now you come to mention it I think there was a story in the press from the Police.  Wasn't it to do with the time delays and there being a realistic issue around other people coming in and altering work that was done so it would be hard to prove what work was covered by the Gas Cert and what may have been changed.  Still that shouldn't have stopped the PGDB taking disciplinary action surely?  The whole thing was an absolute shocker that's for sure and was one of the main catalysts in going to on line certs I think.
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« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2014, 06:33:25 PM »
yep I saw the article....as the work was two years old they couldn't be sure that the work was reflected on the certs.......THEN THEY WENT AFTER MY WORK WHICH WAS WELL OVER 2 YEARS............

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« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2014, 08:31:14 PM »
Hey Jax........ was that the online certs with the disclaimer on accuracy.......lol, its a joke.

 

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« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2014, 09:17:31 PM »
Yes Badger - those on line certs ??? ???

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« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2014, 06:45:44 PM »
How bad does it have to get before someone acts, does someone have to get blown up?

Oh wait there......

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« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2014, 07:08:04 AM »
I have a Official Information Act request in for it, I will keep you posted. Should be here June 10th, from memory.

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« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2014, 09:20:34 AM »
hi guys/Badger you say (I got made a scapegoat for one mate of the Board) my opinion is that all these guys have something on each other and to spill the beans on one is to leave themselves open to having their own skeletons in the cupboard come out. So they cover it all up and put the blame on someone else, then the wheels of justice work in the wrong way with lawyers only working with untruths and coming up with the wrong decisions, cheers   

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« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2014, 05:46:36 PM »
Sounds more like it mate, I am going to see how things go with all the proper channels first.

I think they have dug themselves deeper and are in a situation where they wish they had just admitted that what I had said for six years was right and fixed it there and then, the more you shake the tree the more shit falls out of it.

Perhaps someone should shake someone and see what shit falls out. But like I said I am going to use the proper channels.

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« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2014, 08:09:10 AM »
Hey Watchdog, in light of your comment.....

This may or may not be relevant but I heard the old guy got off on a technicality with the police (mostly due to the time period since the offences). Apparently not long after his son who was/is a member of Institute of Professional Engineers of NZ (IPENZ) was given Gasfitter Certifying Status along with another person when neither had done any time of tools or passed the licensing or certifying exams.  Wasn't Allan Bickers in IPENZ?

Have you seen what is happening in the CTV building collapse, the engineer quits IPENZ because he has no confidence in the IPENZ disciplinary system.......and so the investigation stops???? How many families lost loved ones???

Perhaps Allan Bickers runs the Disciplinary, joking aside though.......how wrong is this? You can opt out of a disciplinary, because you don't have confidence in it.......THINGS I COULD HAVE BEEN TOLD 5 YEARS AGO!!


Are we as tradesman of a lower life form to these "engineers"? People were killed FFS, and you can opt out........unfecking believable......

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« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2014, 09:55:01 PM »
So..........5 years and charges are still before the Board....WTF.....

FYI All,

 

Please see attached a letter from the Board just received today.

 

It has taken 5 years for the Board to take action against one of these people (judging from my experience probably the person wholly responsible), again the Board has probably tried to “make an example” of others and ignored the real culprit.

 

Max,…..I shall be clear and expect a swift answer as the info is at your finger tips………What happened to the guy responsible for all this, the guy who “checked all the work” and issued the blank signed certs, I can provide the importance of his responsibilities in signing those certs, because you have hit me with it repeatedly. I have attached my Hearings findings as but ONE example. I do not need his name, there are no privacy issues.

 

Frankly Max, it is bullshit that one of these people some 5 years later “is still before the Board”. My experience tells me, it is more the situation that it was put out of sight and it was hoped it would go away. It is a cover up. For you to pontificate about a fair trial is disgusting to me after the treatment I was dealt out, and many many others.

 

Now Max, just a yes or no will suffice, no names …..did you grant this same man’s son a full certifying licence around the time the person responsible for these certs handed his licence in? Did you take action against this man responsible for 570 certs to date?

 

So to be clear, two issues-

 

What happened to the guy responsible for all this, the guy who “checked all the work” and issued the 570 blank signed certs, the man from the news article? Is he the one who is still before the Board some 5 years later?
 

Did you grant this same man’s relative (I have been told his son) a full certifying licence around the time the person responsible for these 570 signed blank certs handed his licence in? Of note my sources tell me he was granted his certifying licence in the same manner as Tony Hammond’s (Board inspector) and John Darnley’s (person ignored by the Board for his involvement in the explosion in Milton Street), both of whom have never sat an apprenticeship, so I am told……just months after an explosion nearly killed some one?
 

 

To all of you copied in how much evidence do you need to take this issue on, do I need to up the ante? 


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Re: fact or fiction?
« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2014, 09:59:23 PM »
So this is fair?

An explosion in 2009, a damning report from the OAG in 2010, then the bullshit trial I was subjected to in 2011......then this below.

So its ok for the Board to totally ignore the OAG report?


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