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Offline GasJet

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Gas Safety certs
« on: July 03, 2014, 09:24:04 PM »

Hi all,

whats the story with gas safety certificates when doing work on an existing gas installation? Is a gsc needed for doing small amounts of work to make a property compliant like putting chains around a lpg cylinder,seismic restraint kit on a gas hwc,installing ventilation openings on a cupboard door for a gas hwc etc?

 wondering if doing small tasks like that require a certificate to be filed, and then a leak test also?

Thanks!  ;D

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Re: Gas Safety certs
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2014, 03:06:23 PM »
hi guys,gasjet, the bits you describe (putting chains around a lpg cylinder,seismic restraint kit on a gas hwc, installing ventilation openings on a cupboard door for a gas hwc) should have been in place when the installation was done, was there a cert given by the installer? So if you have been called in to do the described bits only, i would say that you do not need to issue a gsc as you are not interfering with the gasfitting side of the work, cheers     
 

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Re: Gas Safety certs
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2014, 07:04:29 PM »
I agree with Robbo - except for the ventilation  - a GSC, COC or combined GSC and COC are only needed when various aspects of "gasfitting" are perfomed as outlined in the PGD Act.  None of those require you touching anything to do with (as stated in the act) - the work of fixing or unfixing any gas pipes including flue and ventilation pipes, the work of fixing or unfixing any gas installation, THE WORK OF ENSURING THAT THERE IS ADEQUATE VENTIALTION IN RELATION TO ANY GAS INSTALLATION, the work of commissioing any gas installation and ensuring its safe operation (including for example the testing, setting, checking and adjusting of safety devices, combustion conditions and controls associated with the gas installation, the work of setting safety devices, combustion conditions and controls in connection with any gas installation that are not designed to be adjusted by the consumer or gas refueller, and the work of re-commissioning any gas installation if alteration or repair work has been done on the gas installation or its associated fittings to ensure its safe operation, the work of fixing or unfixing any gas installation that is attached to, and forms part of , any ship, boat ,caravan vehicle or train.  So yes for the ventilation part.
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Re: Gas Safety certs
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2014, 12:04:15 AM »
Hi Jaxcat and Robbo

Thankyou for the advice, its good to know and hear from others in industry. im a cg/cp & I see non compliant gas things sometimes while out doing plumbing jobs for example and sometimes people want it sorted out while im at the property if i bring it to their attention, but wasnt sure if it warranted filling out a cert for something that i consider minor but want to follow the regs. if im not touching the gas appliance or piping, flue or anything else classed as gas it made me wonder whether to do one or not.i consider it good upselling to inform them of other things that need doing which technically make the installation non compliant with the regs and should be sorted. if they say no,i make a note,sometimes mention it on the bill for a record and dont press the issue unless its unsafe and carry on.some of the work is decades old so who knows if a cert even exists for it. i read the gsmr but it still left me unsure of what counts and what doesnt for a gsc/coc so thought i would ask here!

thanks again for the help!  ;D

 

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Re: Gas Safety certs
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2014, 11:26:21 AM »
hi guys/gasjet, if you do issue a gsc just make sure that you specify the work that you have done so as not to take responsibility for work that is already in place, cheers


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