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Offline robbo

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Re: Gas certifying
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2011, 03:23:21 PM »
hi guys, i`ll second that,cheers

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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2011, 08:59:32 AM »
Thanks Jaxcat, I see that, but is it written into any legislation that a CG must do the inspections.  "Must be satisfied...." can mean anything from "you asked your guy if the did the job right and he said yes" to "Well, he took photos and it looked alright"

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Re: Gas certifying
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2011, 01:57:23 PM »
I am just fed up with people who don't do any upskilling or competency based training tell me I should do it and they are all for it and its a great idea. As you think it is such a good idea, what was the last course you did?

But you see the people in power are judged by their qualifications and experience, just as we all were up until recently. Remember when we were allowed to have the benefit of trust, honesty and respect.

I got a question for the Board. If, as your website states, the industry was 30% competent in the period 1993 to 2002,why did you give us the responsibility of self certification in 2002 and then 2 years after offer the training, in 2004, for the incompetence?? For an organisation that likes to call others incompetent, it is quite an over sight wouldn't you agree????? ;)

Its the old "do as I say, not as I do".The industry is full of hypocrites and incompetence, but it ain't the poor buggers crawling through shit running pipes.
You can't choose who you are.....but you are the sum of your choices.......

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Re: Gas certifying
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2011, 05:21:56 PM »
hi badger/guys,who are these people? do you mean the "Board"? i have`nt seen the"the industry was 30% competent in the period 1993 to 2002" statement but how did they work that out, sounds like something our famous previous leader would have invented to justify his existance and fat wage packet. did you send this note to the board? if not i think you should do,cheers

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« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2011, 05:59:21 PM »
This is a direct copy and paste from the Board's FAQ part of their web site, I find it insulting, I wonder what an audit of them would show.......oh wait there they been sacked a few times and still at it, it beggars belief.

http://www.pgdb.co.nz/Trade/CPD_FAQ.html


When was Competence Based Licensing (CBL) first introduced?
CBL was introduced when Parliament gave gasfitters self certification in 2002 (Gas Amendment Regulations 2002). Prior to this, the Board had, since 1993, been auditing the work of gasfitters. The audit results indicated that only 30% of gasfitters were meeting the minimum standards of competency. The continuing high level of audit failures led to the implementation of the CPD programme for registered and craftsman gasfitters on 1 April 2004.
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it is embarrassing that this statement is on today's PDGB website--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Gas certifying
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2011, 07:26:44 PM »
For two years the Board by their own admission allowed a industry that was ,according to them, 30% competent, certify their own work ???

And we need upskilling ::)

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Re: Gas certifying
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2011, 08:35:37 PM »
hi badger/guys,i see how they got it all wrong,the statement: "The audit results indicated that only 30% of gasfitters were meeting the minimum standards of competency" obviously meant that the other 70% were meeting the maximum standard,that looks like a win for gasfitters that is why they were allowed to self certify,cheers

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Re: Gas certifying
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2011, 08:56:36 PM »
Well guys having read this and badger thinking of chucking it in I can't blame him. I have 29mths to 65 and will be give great consideration between now and then whether I what to carry on with all the BS that is arising with the PGDB and the govt. I am a certify er for gas whoopdy bloodydo, I up skill every day and have done so for the last fifty years only to see the industry go down hill.At this time I would not recommend to anybody to become into the industry although it has given me a good living.As for complaining Badger complain to the secretary of energy if you think this is a dangerous installation this might throw a different light on things and Just a thought I pay $92 for my Electrical rego and $85 to upskil every two years  I hold two licences. I hold three licences for plumbing,Gas and Drainage although drainage is not active at a cost of $$426.35 so who's ripping who off.well guys good luck and keep up the battle


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