But just because you sell your business, doesn't mean you stop knowing all involved, even keep some of the influence?

It just shows why we need a clean impartial Board.

We haven't had a change of direction, unless you include for the worse, in over ten years.....how many times have they sacked them, 2 or 3 times?.....but then they use the same industry groups, against Law Commission advice, to repopulate the Board, so unsurprisingly the agenda continues.

I have had it said many times that the reason for this nepotism is that there is a limited amount of people capable to do the job.....this is an insult to the other 4 and a half million kiwis that share these islands....and don't forget the "capability" shown by the clowns doing it now. I got a goldfish and a bullmastiff that could do better.

It looks like some of these organisations got together and had a mass debate over the direction of the industry and training and in the absence of that then look for the common denominators, they people on the boards and the organisations supporting them.

These people should piss off before they do any more damage.  Better to resign and walk away than to destroy more lives and get kicked out or held personally responsible in the courts or public arena.

defo a bunch of mass debaters mate....total mass debaters....

It would be good to get a blance but from what we have been told Master Plumbers don't even want to meet with the Federation. I say they need to change or get left behind.